The Counter-Culture, Lawless Muslim Mystics Who Drank Wine? | The Qalandariyya

In this episode, we explore the fascinating and controversial Qalandariyya and similar movements like the Haydais & Shams-i Tabrizis. We also dive into the historical development of this movement, from the early Malamatis to the extreme ascetic dervishes in the Ottoman empire.



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Music by:

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Sources/Recomended Reading:


Dahlén, Ashk (2004). "The Holy Fool in Medieval Islam: The Qalandariyat of Fakhr al-din Araqi". Orientalia Suecana, vol.52.


De Bruijn, J.T.P (1999). "The Qalandariyyat in Persian Mystical Poetry, from Sana'i Onwards". In "The Heritage of Sufism, Vol. 2" (Edited by Leonard Lewisohn). Oneworld Publicaions.


Karamustafa, Ahmet T. (2006). "Gods Unruly Friends: Dervish Groups in the Islamic Later Middle Period, 1200-1550". Oneworld Publications.


Sviri, Sara (1999). "Hakim Tirmidhi and the Malamati Movement in Early Sufism". In The Heritage of Sufism, Vol. 1 (Edited by Leonard Lewisohn).Oneworld Publications.


Toussulis, Yannis (2011). "Sufism and the Way of Blame: Hidden Sources of a Sacred Psychology". Quest Books, U.S.




0:00 Intro

1:53 The Nafs (Ego) in Islamic Mysticism

3:40 The Malamatiyya (People of Blame)

8:57 The birth of the Qalandari movement

11:22 Jamal al-din Savi

12:04 Extreme Asceticism & Antinomianism

16:30 "Die before you die"

17:41 The Principle of Wandering & 'Araqi

19:39 Qalandariyya in Sufi poetry

23:22 Dervish Groups in the Ottoman Empire

26:27 Conclusions



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